REPLY TO ALL: Least Favorite Mario

It’s an early post this week because of the Thanksgiving holiday, but we still bring you REPLY TO ALL: Least Favorite Mario. We here at Horrible Night gave thanks to the many great Mario games that Nintendo has created for us. But we also have to thank the bad ones because if it weren’t for them, the great ones wouldn’t stand out as much. Okay, that might be totally wrong, but the bad Mario games have their place somewhere. Right? Oh, and we still talk about our favorite Mario games because we don’t know how not to rant.

Pixelmixer

Don't adjust your monitor. It really looked like this.

Mario Clash for Virtual Boy has to be my least favorite, (for those that never played it) it really was just not fun and served as inspiration to such horrendous games as Mario Party and Wario Ware: Smooth Moves. Thus Mario Clash could be considered the root of all evil Nintendo mini games. As far as least favorite real Mario games, I was never a fan of Mario Sunshine, Nintendo really tried to play too much off of Mario 64 and tried to raise the bar with it a little but, IMO, failed. Nintendo wouldn’t come back to redeem themselves in the 3D arena until Mario Galaxy.

Robeque

Dude. What are you saying?! Mario Clash was awesome! I forgot about that game, because I rarely think in terms of Virtual Boy. It could be a little frustrating, but I thought it was a great action/puzzler. I would go back and play that again right now if my VB was working. …… and you don’t like Wario Ware? That game wears thin pretty quickly, but I still think you gotta love it in a party setting.

So yeah… my favorite Mario game is in line with a lot of you fine folks. Super Mario World. It really is a pretty flawless game. I love the look and feel of it… I love the music… I love how the map from world to world is laid out. Yoshi is the sh*t, so it’s awesome to have him in there. Can’t you just hear the sound of a goomba exploding as Yoshi comes down on their ugly face right now? Boom. A very close second is Mario 64. That game was so exciting to play. It was the first N64 game that I played. I was so excited for the N64 when it came out and Mario 64 was kind of perfect for that system. I’m sitting here thinking about both of those Mario games and want to go back and play them right now. They’ll always be awesome.

My least favorite Mario game has to be Super Mario Sunshine. I just couldn’t get into the islander characters that they introduced for that game. The gameplay was ok. It wasn’t all that different from Mario 64 and it looked nice on the Gamecube, but it just didn’t do it for me at the time. Maybe if I went back and tried it again now I would like it better, but I probably won’t take the time to try. I’m glad the series has sort of gone away from the islander people things.

Pixelmixer

I never did play Wario Ware or Mario Party in an actual party setting. I suppose it’s possible that my view on those is a bit skewed, but I wonder how many people actually did play them very often in a party setting. Mario Clash was one of those ‘make it quick’ games to show off the newest and coolest technology and never really had much of a purpose beyond a tech demo that made it to store shelves after adding a bit of polish to the tech demo.

JDevL

I’m going to pretend that I didn’t read any of that dissing of WarioWare. Thankfully, it’s not technically a Mario game so we can move on before Wiimotes are thrown through people’s faces. Although, I do pity Dustin for having tried the Virtual Boy. I’m glad I never got my hopes up there.

This game really doesn't exist.

Mario Sunshine is the biggest blemish on the traditional Mario games. Which is saying a lot considering the origin of SMB 2. Even though the waterpack gameplay was a lot of fun and well executed, it was overused. The brilliance of most of the power-ups of the Mario series is that you can mix up how you use them, and a few are rare to specific levels. Having one item that you use throughout the game just wore everyone out by the end. Add that to an annoying setting, the worst use of voice-acting in the entire series, and Bowser, Jr and you have a Mario game that should be forgotten.

Robeque

Everything on VB could be called a tech demo, really. I still think some of the games were great, though. I guess I’m not passionate enough about Mario Clash to really argue about, but you’re WRONG! ;)

Pwrglove

Part of the discussion around least favorite Mario games hinges on what actually counts as one- I never played Luigi’s Mansion but I heard it was mediocre at best, but does it count?  Mario is missing was terrible and a cash grab, although Mario was certainly better at teaching typing than Mavis Beacon if you ask me.

As for my choice for the worst among what I would count as traditional mario games would be Super Mario Land on the Gameboy- I don’t know if it was the technical limitations or what but it’s by far the worst of the straightforward platformers.

Why are there Moai in my Mario?

However they did make up for it with Super Mario Land 2 which was great.

I didn’t play Sunshine much but I watched it being played and just never got interested in it- but don’t be so quick to bash SMB2 either.  Doki Doki Panic wasn’t just a random game they shoehorned the Mario characters into, it was a high profile Miyamoto designed game that they shoehorned the Mario characters into.

Wizardtrain187

I know its a classic, but I never was a big fan of the original. My gaming started with the master system, so I never had the affinity for Mario brothers. Mario 2 was the first one I really played alot and I thought it was fun, even if it wasn’t a true mario game. Sorry for all you nostalgia lovers….flame away.

Colefacekilla

Super Mario Bros. 2 should not be flamed in any way. That game, while being wholly different from all the other Mario games is still amazing. Who cares if they shoehorned it in to a different game because the real Super Mario Bros. 2 was too hard for puny American audiences. I would take it over The Lost Levels any day of the week. Multiple characters to choose from. Bonus slot machine mini-game. The damn face monster that chased you around when you picked up a key…er well that was my least favorite part of the game but you have to admit no other Mario game can touch that one in terms of WTF is going on moments. Plus the ending explains everything: Mario doing his best Bob Newhart impersonation.

As for worst Mario game, I’ve heard it is Mario Sunshine but I never played it due to all the negativity I heard about it. Another game I didn’t play but watched someone play it was Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island. I nominate that for worst game because of baby Mario and those god awful noises he made.

Pixelmixer

Not Yoshi’s Island! Granted that game is not a Mario game, but a Yoshi spinoff, but I was a big fan of Yoshi is SMW. So much so that I even bought Yoshi’s Story for Nintendo 64 when it came out. I always did think it was a bit odd that Yoshi’s power in that game was laying baby Yoshi eggs and spitting or throwing them at things.

JDevL

Forget about the baby, look at the art!

Yoshi’s Island was awesome. Forget the baby, the art style and gameplay puts it up there with any great Mario title. But Yoshi’s Story was a joke. Way too kiddy on that one.

Gifftor

Although I didn’t have an NES or an SNES, I did have both the 64 and the Game Cube.  Having played a game or two in my life, I’ve obviously been exposed to plenty of Mario and I even played through SMB3 in college with a girlfriend and enjoyed the experience.  While it was fun to watch my brother collect every last star in SM64, my hands-down favorite Mario title experience was granted through the use of the GameBoy Advance –> GameCube adapter that let me play Super Mario 2.  I’m not sure I can put my finger on it, but all of the Mario games have had some degree of (see attached) involved that I’ve always sort of liked.  Super Mario 2 and Sunshine were the high-points of weird Japanese elements in the Mario series and something about the trans-sexual mini-boss combined with the ability to super jump just kind of did it for me.

This picture says enough.

Despite the weirdness factor that I just lauded in SMB2, Sunshine sucked.  A semi-aware water cannon?  A shadow Mario?  And my god.  The Island Music.  Hours and hours of the island music.  Poor concept, poor execution.

Wizardtrain187

Yoshi’s Island!!!! I loved that game, and the last boss still sticks in my mind. I agree, great spin off despite not being true Mario fare. You can all shut up about that one or I swear I’m gonna wrestle you to the ground and breath heavily on your face.

JDevL

Been thinking about this a bit more and realized how pissed off I used to get at the first Super Mario Land for the Gameboy. Good lord that game was awful, more thanks to being an early title on the system. Thank god, they managed to make such huge leaps with SML 2 which is one of the forgotten great Super Mario titles.

Wizardtrain187

Couldn’t you destroy coins with fireballs in Super Mario Land? I remember thinking as a child “wow, the power of those fireballs is pretty inconsistent. They can melt large gold coins, yet don’t have much of a cosmetic impact on the assortment of creatures one encounters in previous titles.”

Robeque

You were a strange child.

He's also a strange adult.

JDevL

I was more like, “Yay, fire.”

Gifftor

I think my reaction was, “Gee the battery life on these game boys is really great compared to my Sega Game Gear for which I spent $90 for an external battery pack to provide 2 hours of additional gameplay.  I wonder what they’ll call someone who is a dedicated fan of a given tech company without strongly enumerated reasoning in the future?”

Wizardtrain187

That damn Game Gear, it was the Humvee of portable gaming.

Pwrglove

Continuing along the least favorite Mario game path, I was going to make a crack about how at least there was no terrible CD-I version like there was for Zelda, but apparently I’m wrong on that.  I give you Hotel Mario complete with its very own awful cut scenes.

I also just remembered Mario’s Time Machine which was another edutainment cash grab equally as bad as Mario is Missing.

Gifftor

Let’s be fair to the Humvee – in its pure, unadulterated form, it was a fine scout vehicle/jeep replacement and could mount a .50 caliber M2B.  The Game Gear was more like the H3 – incapable of competing with the stripped down but completely functional Humvee (or “GameBoy”) yet nowhere near the level of a Land Rover (there’s no analog for a Land Rover in handhelds, at least not contemporaneously with the GameGear).  But a Land Rover is completely functional off-road vehicle with class that only the Britons can pull off.  Unless it’s defiled by someone on Jersey Shore.  Damn you, Wizardtrain187, for getting me off on this tangent.

Wizardtrain187

Awww, yes. My apologies for broadly targetting the humvee as well as diverting the conversation.

JDevL

The only way I can think to link humvee’s and Mario is to state that Mario Kart: Double Dash!! is awful and should be stricken from the Mario Kart history.

Pwrglove

There might have been something resembling a humvee made out of logs with cannons and flame throwers attached to it in that first level of world 8 in SMB 3.

Endlessben

Super Mario Land was brutal but I forced my way through the entire game out of principle. There have been a lot of Mario games I didn’t play like the aforementioned Sunshine and Luigi’s Mystery Spooky Whatever but also the whole line of Mario sports games. I’m sure some of them were actually probably decent sports games but even if I did start playing them, it seems like there were way too many to keep up with. Mario Super Sluggers, Strikers, Curlers, Equestrian Vaulters and Polo…ers. Also, WOW Hotel Mario. Hilariously awful AND discriminatory! A great combination!

Wow, and I just now got far enough in the video to catch the Rolling Stones reference. Just excellent.

Whew!

That was an epic REPLY TO ALL. Now you all know which Mario games you should play, and which ones to avoid. Or play the bad ones if you want to. No one here is stopping you.

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